- From: Cristiano Longo <cristianolongo@opendatahacklab.org>
- Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 11:39:40 +0100
- To: public-swicg@w3.org
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We were just discussing about the effort needed to encode in OWL the semantics described in natural language of ActivityStreams2, in particular those in https://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-vocabulary/ On 20/03/25 22:38, Aaron Gray wrote: > What are you actually trying to describe ? Sorry I have lost the > thread as everyone is top posting. > > On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 at 19:06, Cristiano Longo > <cristianolongo@opendatahacklab.org> wrote: > > It depends on how much one intend to go in deep. For example, I > already produced some constraints that describe membership and > paging of collection, but I have been unable to envisage a model > theoretic semantics for the activity ADD and REMOVE as it would > require to represent the time ordering of activity of this type. > > On 20/03/25 19:51, Melvin Carvalho wrote: >> >> >> čt 20. 3. 2025 v 19:39 odesílatel Cristiano Longo >> <cristianolongo@opendatahacklab.org> napsal: >> >> Thank you very much, I fond this that is really specific >> >> https://nlnet.nl/opensocial/ >> >> However just 50K euro will be funded, so that just one or two >> person would be involved. >> >> Now I have to understand if, in the case I got this grant, >> how I should interact with the official Activity Pub charter. >> >> However, on monday I'll have a meeting at my university to >> discuss about this grant and other opportunities. >> >> >> Unsure making an OWL file would be alot of effort. I would >> imagine a perfect professional document costing in the range of >> 5k, and could be done in a few weeks. >> >> CL >> >> On 18/03/25 09:53, Melvin Carvalho wrote: >>> >>> >>> út 18. 3. 2025 v 9:27 odesílatel Cristiano Longo >>> <cristianolongo@opendatahacklab.org> napsal: >>> >>> I'm going to look for any funding for this. Any >>> suggestion about an appropriate funding source and >>> scheme will be appreciated. Also, proposals for >>> collaborations with other institutions are welcome. >>> >>> >>> I would recommend NLNet, they are very generous with funding: >>> >>> https://nlnet.nl/propose/ >>> >>> CL >>> >>> On 04/10/24 10:11, Melvin Carvalho wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> pá 4. 10. 2024 v 10:03 odesílatel Cristiano Longo >>>> <cristianolongo@opendatahacklab.org> napsal: >>>> >>>> The OWL file have to be mantained and enriched, as >>>> reported in >>>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swicg/2023Dec/0014.html >>>> >>>> I don't know if it is appropriate that the >>>> community group work on this. >>>> And, if so, I'm not sure if this should be >>>> mentioned in the document >>>> under discussion or it could emerge later as a work >>>> item. >>>> >>>> I'm sorry but I cannot attend the today meeting. >>>> >>>> It’s the machine-readable vocabulary for ActivityPub. >>>> Could we perhaps just call it the *Schema*, *Vocab*, or >>>> *Ontology* for ActivityPub, instead of "OWL"? OWL >>>> stands for Ontology Web Language, and that’s a bit less >>>> intuitive for most folks. >>>> >>>> In the linked data world, a schema is essential, and it >>>> should be referenced in the context. The context itself >>>> isn’t meant for definitions—it’s more of an >>>> intermediary between the specific JSON format (or >>>> "profile") and the schema. >>>> >>>> There was quite a bit of work done on the schema during >>>> the Working Group, but at some point, the link to it >>>> seems to have been broken—intentionally or not. I think >>>> it would be a valuable task to restore that connection >>>> and make the ActivityPub schema fully compliant with >>>> W3C standards again. >>>> >>>> >>>> CL >>>> >>>> On 08/12/23 17:38, Evan Prodromou wrote: >>>> > The original development file for AS2 was an OWL >>>> file. >>>> > >>>> > I don't think it was ever edited after James >>>> Snell created the first >>>> > JSON-LD context file. >>>> > >>>> > But it's been in the Activity Streams 2.0 >>>> repository on GitHub since >>>> > it was created. >>>> > >>>> > We get occasional requests to make changes to it >>>> to bring it into line >>>> > with the JSON-LD context doc. Some LinkedData >>>> developers seem to >>>> > prefer using it. >>>> > >>>> > We had a new issue filed this week about it, and >>>> on the issue triage >>>> > call we came up with a novel solution: move the >>>> file to its own >>>> > repository in the SWICG namespace, and let people >>>> who are interested >>>> > in using and maintaining it work on the project. >>>> > >>>> > The new repository is here: >>>> > >>>> > https://github.com/swicg/activitystreams2-owl >>>> > >>>> > Big appreciation to Emelia Smith for getting the >>>> process rolling. >>>> > We've already had one PR applied. >>>> > >>>> > I had removed the file from the >>>> w3c/activitystreams repo, but Ben >>>> > Goering pointed out that it probably needed more >>>> consensus and a >>>> > discussion here. >>>> > >>>> > So, let's discuss! >>>> > >>>> > I'd love to see this unofficial file maintained >>>> and updated. I think >>>> > moving it to a repo where people in the LD >>>> community can maintain it >>>> > is a great solution. >>>> > >>>> > Evan >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > > -- > Aaron Gray - @AaronNGray@fosstodon.org | @aaronngray@threads.net | > @AaronNGray@Twitter.com > > Independent Open Source Software Engineer, Computer Language > Researcher and Designer, Amateur Type Theorist, Amateur Computer > Scientist, Environmentalist and Climate Science Researcher and > Disseminator. >
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