Re: Translations of W3C documents not working?

Dear all,

I was a bit optimistic/absent-minded when thinking we could solve the problem of the translations of the Library Linked Data reports.

The wiki for this XG has been frozen:
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/
So now the only way is to change the reports themselves. Like, adding an HTML list like the ones I've created on the SKOS translation page:
http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/translations

The XG LLD reports are not /TR/ documents so I believe it's not a drama if I do it. Still, it's not really elegant.

The decision to stop serving the existing translations was really not a helpful one... and I don't see it in [1]: "Links to non-REC translations, as appearing in the w3c-translators@w3.org mailing list archive will continue to work, but no new translation of non-REC documents will be added."

Best,

Antoine

[1] http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/translations



> Dear Coralie,
>
> Thanks a lot!
> This is useful stuff.  I will start fighting with the Japanese characters to put them on the SKOS site...
> The good thing is that in the HTML archive I can also see the translations of the Library Linked Data, so we're all set.
> By the way Tom, in case you have time to put the LLD translations on the wiki, I wouldn't have any objection ;-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Antoine
>
>
>
>>
>> Dear Antoine,
>>
>> Please, see below.
>>
>> On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:34:57 +0200, Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/30/13 10:54 PM, Coralie Mercier wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> Hi Antoine,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your patience. The issues were investigated yesterday and today.
>>>> What was fixable is now fixed.
>>>>
>>>> So, because the document is a W3C Recommendation, the following query now works again:
>>>>    http://www.w3.org/2003/03/Translations/byTechnology?technology=skos-reference
>>>>
>>>> The two other URIs you reported earlier this month used to work when our Translations DB contained all sorts of documents. Since then made a policy decision [1] not to support translations of non-REC documents anymore.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Coralie
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-translators/2012JulSep/0038.html
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Coralie,
>>>
>>> Thanks for you feedback.
>>> I have to say I'm quite disappointed. I can understand that you would stop gathering translations, there can indeed be quality problems and W3C is not a translation agency. But removing the existing translations is a bit harsh! Actually [1] does no say the old ones would be removed.
>>>
>>> So now I guess I will have to update the two "community" sites for SKOS and LLD:
>>> http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/translations
>>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Main_Page
>>> in order not to lose track of these translations. In the library ___domain it's often well seen to have translations, and now that people have put effort in it they wouldn't understand if they are not pointed to anymore.
>>>
>>> My problem is that I don't have the URLs.
>>
>> I find the Archive of Translation Announcements is a useful index:
>>    http://www.w3.org/2003/03/Translations/Archive.html
>>
>>> I guess I could search for them in the listserv, but I really don't have time, and I suspect that they are in one of the three files below
>>> http://www.w3.org/2003/03/Translations/RDFData/Trans2011.rdf
>>> http://www.w3.org/2003/03/Translations/RDFData/Trans2012.rdf
>>> http://www.w3.org/2003/03/Translations/RDFData/Trans2013.rdf
>>> Is it possible to have access to them?
>>
>> Yes. The access is now fixed, they were expected to be world-readable (and probably were at some point), this is now the case again.
>>
>>> I can get other RDF files at
>>> http://www.w3.org/2003/03/Translations/byTechnology?technology=skos-primer
>>> but strangely these three are the only ones for which I don't seem to have permissions!
>>
>> In your specific case, the only ones in the system are:
>>
>> http://skos.um.es/TR/skos-primer/
>> http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~ax2s-kmtn/internet/skos/note-skos-primer-20090818.html
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Coralie
>>
>>> Thanks for the help,
>>>
>>> Antoine
>>
>>
>>
>

Received on Sunday, 4 August 2013 14:58:47 UTC