- From: Bobby Tung <bobbytung@wanderer.tw>
- Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 21:13:15 +0800
- To: Xidorn Quan <quanxunzhen@gmail.com>
- Cc: Koji Ishii <kojiishi@gluesoft.co.jp>, "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>, www-style list <www-style@w3.org>
Sure, are you in Shenzhen? I'll attend CSS WG discussion for UTR #50 Tr fallback. WANDERER Bobby Tung Sent from my iPhone 5. > Xidorn Quan <quanxunzhen@gmail.com> �� 2013/11/11 �U��9:04 �g�D�G > > You may want to check the reference tests I wrote for my implementation. > >> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Bobby Tung <bobbytung@wanderer.tw> wrote: >> I'll forward this to HTML 5 IG. To understand if any difference in zh-TW and zh-CN. Any feedback will forward here. >> >> WANDERER Bobby Tung >> Sent from my iPhone 5. >> >>> Koji Ishii <kojiishi@gluesoft.co.jp> �� 2013/11/11 �U��8:09 �g�D�G >>> >>> I'm forwarding information from Bobby; looks like it matches to Xidorn's >>> feedback for Chinese. >>> >>> /koji >>> >>> >>> From: ���ֿ� <bobbytung@wanderer.tw> >>> Date: Monday, November 11, 2013 3:55 PM >>> To: "Ishii, Koji a | Koji | BLD" <kojiishi@gluesoft.co.jp> >>> Subject: Re: [css-counter-styles] Suggested changes to Chinese and Korean >>> informal styles >>> >>> >>> Can I count informal styles as verbal expression? >>> >>> here is the list. please help me to forward. I've read #CSS discussion. >>> >>> 1 >>> �@ >>> >>> 10 >>> �Q >>> (end zero is skipped) >>> >>> 11 >>> �Q|�@ >>> >>> 100 >>> �@�� >>> (end two zero is skipped) >>> >>> 101 >>> �@��|�s|�@ >>> >>> 110 >>> �@��|�@ >>> (end zero is skipped,�@ is instead of �Q) >>> >>> 111 >>> �@��|�@�Q|�@ >>> >>> 1000 >>> �@�d >>> (end three zero is skipped) >>> >>> 1001 >>> �@�d|�s|�@ >>> (two zero is combined as one zero) >>> >>> 1010 >>> �@�d|�s|�@�Q| >>> (end zero is skipped) >>> >>> 1011 >>> �@�d|�s|�@�Q|�@ >>> >>> 1100 >>> �@�d|�@ >>> (end two zero is skipped, �@ is instead of �@��) >>> >>> 1101 >>> �@�d|�@��|�s|�@ >>> >>> 1110 >>> �@�d|�@��|�@�Q >>> (end zero is skipped) >>> >>> 1111 >>> �@�d|�@��|�@�Q|�@ >>> >>> 10000 >>> �@�U >>> (end four zero is skipped) >>> >>> >>> 10001 >>> �@�U|�s|�@ >>> (Three zero is combined) >>> >>> 10010 >>> �@�U|�s|�@�Q| >>> (two zero is combined, final end is skipped) >>> >>> 10011 >>> �@�U|�s|�@�Q|�@ >>> (two zero is combined) >>> >>> 10100 >>> �@�U|�s|�@�� >>> (end two zero is skipped) >>> >>> >>> 10101 >>> �@�U|�s|�@��|�s|�@ >>> >>> 10110 >>> �@�U|�s|�@��|�@�Q >>> (end zero is skipped) >>> >>> 10111 >>> �@�U|�s|�@��|�@�Q|�@ >>> >>> 11000 >>> �@�U|�@ >>> (end three zero is skipped, �@ is instead of �@�d) >>> >>> >>> 11001 >>> �@�U|�@�d|�s|�@ >>> (two zero is combined) >>> >>> >>> 11100 >>> �@�U|�@�d|�@ >>> (end two zero is skipped, �@ is instead of �@��) >>> >>> >>> 11101 >>> �@�U|�@�d|�@��|�s|�@ >>> >>> 11110 >>> �@�U|�@�d|�@��|�@�Q| >>> (end zero is skipped, �@ is instead of �@�Q) >>> >>> >>> 11111 >>> �@�U|�@�d|�@��|�@�Q|�@ >>> >>> >>> Koji Ishii <kojiishi@gluesoft.co.jp> �� 2013/11/11 �U��3:17 �g�D�G >>> >>> >>> Bobby, we need Chinese experts on issue #11 on this: >>> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-counter-styles/issues-lc-20130718.html#issue-11 >>> >>> Do you have any insights? >>> >>> /koji >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11/7/13 11:13 AM, "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Xidorn Quan <quanxunzhen@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> I just submitted an implementation of longhand East Asian counter >>>>> styles for >>>>> Firefox. You can find it at >>>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=934072 . >>>>> >>>>> As described in comment 8 in the page mentioned above, this impl >>>>> generates a >>>>> slightly different result with the current draft: for 11,111, it >>>>> generates >>>>> "�@�E�d�ʤQ�@" in japanese-informal and "�U �d�ʤQ�@" in korean-hanja-informal; >>>>> and it >>>>> generates "�@�d�E" for 10,000,000 in japanese-informal. These >>>>> modifications are >>>>> based on the discussion in this mailing list and replies from some of my >>>>> native friends, and I also referred to the result of Google Translate. >>>> >>>> Can you please describe what these changes are in terms of the >>>> algorithms in the spec? >>> >>> And here's more of Xidorn's feedback, on the Chinese informal styles: >>> >>>> Section 7.2.1, 5. Drop ones, the first term should be changed from >>>> >>>>> For the Chinese informal styles, for any group with a value between ten >>>>> and nineteen, >>>>> remove the tens digit (leave the digit marker). >>>> >>>> to >>>> >>>>> For the Chinese informal styles, for any group **other than the ones >>>>> group** with a >>>>> value between ten and nineteen, remove the tens digit (leave the digit >>>>> marker). >>>> >>>> For example, for number 10,011, the current term generates "�@�E�s�Q�@" and >>>> the new term generates "�@�E�s�@�Q�@" which is more preferable. The number >>>> of result Google search can prove: 8 results for "�@�E�s�Q�@", but about >>>> 741,000 results for "�@�E�s�@�Q�@". >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> ~TJ >>> >>> > <counter-simp-chinese-informal-ref.html> > <counter-simp-chinese-informal.html> > <counter-trad-chinese-informal-ref.html> > <counter-trad-chinese-informal.html> > <counter-korean-hanja-informal-ref.html> > <counter-korean-hanja-informal.html>
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